i like this

the hallmark of a civil debate is when you can acknowledge that which is good in the position of the person you disagree with. (Sidney Callahan)

quote from an elder in greenland

"Every day we in the north see what you in the south are doing to the Earth. We have seen what it takes to melt the Arctic ice. What will it take to melt the ice in the human heart?"

wine

i have just finished reading the Symposium

during Alcibiades' speech he says "truth comes from wine"

i wonder if there is any truth in this statement

my inclination is no but it's defiantly open to debate